Thanksgiving: istruzioni per l’uso

Above: Giovanni and Elena Rava of La Casaccia, producer of Barbera and Grignolino in Monferrato. I had dinner with them after visiting their winery in March, 2010.

I am a big believer in how the ethos of a winemaker is expressed in the personality and character of her/his wines. The best truth of my belief that I can offer is Giovanni and Elena Rava of La Casaccia (above), who are the nicest and coolest people, true humanist winemakers, and they make some of my favorite wines from my favorite subzone of Barbera production: Monferrato. IMHO, Monferrato (in the province of Asti, Piedmont) is where the BEST Barbera comes from. And I’m certainly not alone in that belief.

The subsoil their (above) is made of rocks and sand: terrible for growing other crops, but ideal for grapes intended for fine wine. Because of the soil’s mineral content (nutrient poor) and its drainage, the vines are “stressed” and consequently produce richer fruit.

Two of La Casaccia’s wines were included in the Thanksgiving Six-Pack: I wanted to share a few istruzioni per l’uso, instructions for the application of these wines during your family holiday feast.

Sella 2009 Coste della Sesia Erbaluce

Please do not serve this wine TOO cold. It’s a rich, mineral-driven wine and it’s ideal serving temperature is “cellar temperature,” as we say in wine parlance. Technically, that’s 55° or 56° (or thereabouts). But all you need to do is to take the wine out of the fridge about 20 minutes before serving. At our Thanksgiving, this is the first glass that guests are poured.

Laureano Serres 2009 Abeurador Macabeo

Again, here, if too cold, you’ll only taste half the wine. I actually like this best at room temperature, like a red wine. Technically, this is an “orange wine,” i.e., a white grape that has been vinified with “skin contact.” The grape juice is macerated (steeped) with the skins during vinification and the skins impart some tannin and an orange color to the wine.

This wine is also a unsulfured wine. In other words, no sulfites have been added to stabilize the wine (sulfites are a GOOD thing, btw, but only when used in moderation). N.B. THIS WINE WILL STINK when you open it. Be SURE to allow for at least 30 minutes aeration before serving. Once aerated, it will show all of its crunchy earthiness and pure fruit (think apricot).

Sella 2009 Coste della Sesia Rosato

I couldn’t believe the beauty — the true sexy beauty — of the nose of this wine when I recently re-tasted it. Again, NOT TOO COLD. I think this and the next wine are the ideal wines for the main seating at Thanksgiving.

Castello di Verduno 2008 Pelaverga Basadone

I called this my favorite Thanksgiving wine and you’ll see why: very little tannin, bright bright acidity, and a white pepper note that makes this so good with everything at Thanksgiving. Serve this as your centerpiece wine at the peak of the meal. It’s light in body and utterly delicious.

La Casaccia 2007 Barbera del Monferrato

Reserve this wine for folks who want a richer, meatier style of wine. This is going to be my number-one pick for dark meat (I like the leg, btw!). Here, bright acidity, rich mineral flavor, and some tannin (and dark, inky color) are going to go well with the richest savory dishes on the table (dark meat, ham, etc.).

La Casaccia 2009 Grignolino del Monferrato

DON’T BE DECEIVED by the light color of this wine. It’s bright and nearly transparent but this is ONE TANNIC MOTHER OF A WINE! Of any of the wines for Thanksgiving this year, this is the one to decant. And it’s my top choice for meditative wine at the end of the night, in other words, the wine you sip while munching on cheese after dinner, even though you’ve already had too much to eat!

Lastly, for those of you who bought the Jelipins 2005 Sumoll, you’ll find the vintage on the back label at the bottom. It’s encrypted: because this wine is classified as a vino de mesa, a table wine, the producer is NOT ALLOWED to write the vintage on the front label or technically anywhere.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE!
PLEASE SEND PHOTOS AND NOTES
OF WHAT YOU DRANK FOR THE HOLIDAY!
BE SAFE AND REMIND YOUR LOVED ONES
HOW MUCH YOU CARE!
THAT’S WHAT HOLIDAYS ARE FOR.

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Inky black wine, garnet wine, orange wine

When our friend and wine writer Alice Feiring came to Austin a few weeks ago for a series of events celebrating her and her book (The Battle for Wine and Love or How I Saved the World from Parkerization), she stayed with me and Tracie P: it was so great to see her, it was entirely awesome to see her in Texas (which, I believe, she enjoyed thoroughly), and it was fantastic to get to taste great wine with her.

A lot of great wine was opened in the short time she was here, but the two wines that I still can’t get out of my mind were the Laureano Serres Abeurador Macabeo (above, an orange wine and one of the wines in the Do Bianchi Thanksgiving Six-Pack) and the Els Jelipins Sumoll (below), both from Spain.

I loved both wines but the wine that completely blew me away was the Sumoll. As Alice wrote in a post on her visit: “The best moment for me [her], though, was when everyone put their nose in the Els Jelepins 2004 Sumoll and from the bottom to the top of the table, I heard an echo of ‘Oh, wow!’”

Alice has been to both properties and, together with the importer, her friend José Pastor, is probably the leading authority in the U.S. on these “impeccably natural wines,” as she puts it.

In my notes on the wine, I wrote: “The Jelipins 2004 Sumoll, mind-boggling good. Impenetrably inky and viscous on the palate, a stilnovo sonnet with alternating rhymes of earth and fruit.”

José and I call each other the “other JP” in Alice’s world… He’s been super cool and he let me have a small allocation of this remarkable wine. It’s not cheap but I can tell you that it’s one of those “life-changing” wines (please note that it is extremely tannic and needs a LOT of aeration, even 2-3 hours).

Check out Alice’s post on her visit to the winery and the Sumoll.

I still have a few bottles of the 2005 Els Jelipins Sumoll available (most are already spoken for) and they cost $67.

To order, please send me an email by clicking here.

Beyond orange and inky black, I also have a small amount of some of my favorite garnet wine: Castello di Verduno’s 2005 (classic) Barbaresco and the 2004 single-vineyard Barbaresco Rabajà.

I began following this winery when I first tasted with the winemaker at the Vini Veri natural wine tasting outside Verona in April 2006. To my mind and on my palate, these wines represent some of greatest values on the market today. Anyone who knows me or follows my blog knows that I LOVE BARBARESCO. In fact, if I were pressed to answer the age-old conundrum, what’s your favorite wine?, I’d have to say that my favorite appellation is Barbaresco. It’s here that the ineffable confluence of lightness (in body) and power (in structure and tannin) come together like no other terroir on earth (IMHO).

These wines aren’t cheap: they are most definitely “special occasion” wines in the Do Bianchi scale of days (Monday wines, Tuesday wines, etc., Saturday Night wines, Sunday Lunch wines, Special Occasion wines). But they do fall under my ceiling of wine price point and, like Produttori del Barbaresco, I am able to collect them despite my limited resources. That’s no apology: you will find earth and fruit in these wines, elegant body and nuance, and impressive backbone… After Montestefano, Rabajà is probably my favorite cru in Barbaresco and it is considered one of the most powerful in terms of its expression of earth, fruit, and tannin in a bottle.

Small amounts available:

Castello di Verduno 2005 Barbaresco $45
Castello di Verduno 2004 Barbaresco Rabajà $60

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My favorite Thanksgiving wine (and not just mine)

Above: I LOVE all the wines in my Thanksgiving 2010 Six-Pack but the Pelaverga Basadone by Castello di Verduno holds a special place in my heart.

Do Bianchi Thanksgiving Six-Pack

Sella 2009 Coste della Sesia Erbaluce
Laureano Serres 2009 Abeurador Macabeo
Sella 2009 Coste della Sesia Rosato
Castello di Verduno 2008 Pelaverga Basadone
La Casaccia 2007 Barbera del Monferrato
La Casaccia 2009 Grignolino del Monferrato

$120 plus tax (shipping and handling, if applicable)

Free delivery for San Diego residents. Wines will ship from San Diego on Monday, November 15 and I will be making local deliveries in San Diego on Monday Nov. 15 and Tuesday Nov. 16.

ALSO AVAILABLE

Castello di Verduno 2005 Barbaresco $45
Castello di Verduno 2004 Barbaresco Rabajà $60

Els Jelipins 2004 Sumoll $67

TO ORDER PLEASE SEND ME AN EMAIL BY CLICKING HERE.

The year was 2006 and I was working in New York as the media director for a high-profile Italian restaurant group that also happened to be a direct importer of Italian wines. Earlier that year, I had made the annual trek with my colleagues to the Italian wine fairs, where we met and tasted with a young winemaker at the natural wine fair, Vini Veri: Mario Andrion of Castello di Verduno, producer of awesome Barolo and Barbaresco and a then relatively obscure grape called Pelaverga. I’ve always loved Mario’s traditional-style wines (see the Barbaresco below) but all of my colleagues and I agreed that his Pelaverga Basadone was one of the most original wines we’d tasted that year: light in body, bright with acidity, and rich with fresh red fruit flavors, complemented by a gentle “white pepper” note. Later that year, a prominent colleague asked me what my Thanksgiving pick was and I whispered, Pelaverga, the perfect wine to go with wide variety of foods we eat for the holiday, from roast turkey to cranberry sauce. Don’t ask me how but this vital piece of information was somehow whispered into the ear of the then New York Times restaurant editor Frank Bruni (remember him?). The rest is history: when he picked this wine as his top choice for Thanksgiving 2006, it made Mario’s Pelaverga a household word (at least in Manhattan).

And it’s a highly interesting word at that! No one knows the true origin of the grape name but on face value it means branch scraper, from the Italian pelare (to peel) and verga (branch). Most believe the name has to do with vine training techniques that were used to cultivate this rustic grape.

Of course, verga (and those of you who speak Spanish will immediately see the linguistic kinship) can also denote the… ahem… male sex. Back in Verduno (Piedmont), the locals say this spicy grape has aphrodisiacal properties and that’s why Castello di Verduno calls it Basadone, the baciadonne or lady kisser.

This is one of the most exciting six-packs to date and I was able to bring it in at just $120 (average bottle price of $20). It contains 2 orange wines (one from Spain), a true rosé (made from Nebbiolo), and four gorgeous food-friendly reds.

I’ll post and blast more on the wines later this week but in brief:

Sella 2009 Coste della Sesia Erbaluce

100% Erbaluce from one of my favorite traditionalist producers in northern Piedmont, Sella (not far from Biella).

Laureano Serres 2009 Abeurador Macabeo

A zero-sulfite-added wine from a radical natural producer in Spain (this wine blew me away when I tasted it recently in Austin. Extremely hard to source but I managed to get a small allocation.

Sella 2009 Coste della Sesia Rosato

This rosé, also by Sella, could also have been my top pick for Thanksgiving. Rosé from 100% Nebbiolo (David Rosoff, my friend and wine director at Mozza in LA turned me on to this wine).

Castello di Verduno 2008 Pelaverga Basadone

100% Pelaverga (see above). No matter who you’re kissing this year at Thanksgiving, I know you’re going to love this wine.

La Casaccia 2007 Barbera del Monferrato
La Casaccia 2009 Grignolino del Monferrato

I tasted with the lovely folks at La Casaccia back in March. My top producer for Barbera and you might be surprised by the Grignolino: it’s a true expression of one of Italy’s most tannic grapes.

Note that I’ve ordered the wines in the order they should be served (IMHO).

Thanks for reading!

$120 plus tax (shipping and handling, if applicable)

Free delivery for San Diego residents.

ALSO AVAILABLE

Castello di Verduno 2005 Barbaresco $45
Castello di Verduno 2004 Barbaresco Rabajà $60

Els Jelipins 2004 Sumoll $67

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Whites with age and for aging, reds to drink now

First Fall Flight

Dettori 2006 Bianco
Cogno 2008 Anas-Scetta (Nascetta)
Ronco Severo 2006 Tocai Friulano
Ronco Severo 2007 Refosco
Vajra 2008 Dolcetto d’Alba
Produttori del Barbaresco 2008 Langhe Nebbiolo

$150

Plus tax (shipping and handling if applicable)

I’ll be shipping the wines on Monday from my warehouse in San Diego and delivering the wines to San Diego residents on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday.

To purchase, please just send me an email by clicking here.

You might notice something unusual about this first Do Bianchi offering for the fall of 2010. The white wines in this flight are as old and even older than the reds.

This time around, I was able to source two white wines that need to age before drinking and will also cellar well (if you choose to lay them down).

The Dettori 2006 Bianco (Sardinia) is made by one of Italy’s most radical natural winemakers (and no one I know, not even the most radical among the natural wine bloggers, would challenge that statement!). Biodynamic farming, aggressively low yields, native yeasts, and no filtration. The wines of Dettori, in this case made with Vermentino grapes, have been known to age gracefully for more than 50 years. Tasting Dettori for the first time 10 years ago changed my palate and my wine life. I know it will change yours: gorgeous fruit, nervy acidity, and tannic structure. I love these wines and was entirely stoked to get my hands on some.

The Ana-Scetta or Nascetta: you may remember this wine from a recent post I did at Do Bianchi. The first time someone poured me this wine, it was in a wine bar in Austin. The wine was ice-cold and the glass was handed to me by someone saying, “this is an unusual white grape from Piedmont.” In the noise and bustle of the evening and the excessively cold glass, I hardly understood what I was tasting. And when I finally visited the winemaker earlier this year, I was doing so as a favor to a publicist. But when Valter Fissore (above) poured me a taste of his 2001 Nascetta (that’s the real name of the grape), in the proper setting and at the proper temperature, I was floored by how good this wine is. Nutty and rich, unctuous on the tongue and bright on the nose and palate. No one really knows because Valter is the first to cultivate this native grape of Piedmont with such meticulous attention to detail. But at nearly 10 years out, this wine seemed like a young, powerful colt.

The older I get and the more I develop my palate, the more I find that aged white wines are what deliver some of the greatest rewards to my senses. They are the wines that I find myself lingering over and returning to… again and again… both of the above bottlings contain such wines.

For anyone who’s been following my adventures at DoBianchi.com, you know that I was recently part of an amazing trip to Friuli.

So, I’ve also included a couple of wines from the Colli Orientali del Friuli, both from a producer that I enjoy and respect immensely and made from native Friulian grapes — a Tocai Friulano (white) and a Refosco (red).

The Ronco Severo wines are fresh and clean, with that bright acidity that Tracie P and I look for in wines that we drink at home.

Lastly, I’ve included two red wines that we couldn’t live without and that a lot of people have asked me about.

The one is Langhe Nebbiolo 2008 by Produttori del Barbaresco. I think this wine is drinking great right now and it’s just one of those wines that I can drink on Wednesday or Saturday nights, in other words, on a school night or on a special occasion.

And the Dolcetto d’Alba 2008 by Vajra? It’s mama Judy’s favorite wine!

A fantastic food wine, with gorgeous acidity and balanced fruit with just the right amount of gentle tannin. It’s one of those wines that I love to pair with classics of Piedmont cuisine but I also love to pair with American comfort food. It’s so versatile: it goes great with everything from fried chicken and mashed potatoes and beef stews to spicier cuisines like Mexican and Indian, its bright acidity and juiciness a great match for the heat in those gastronomic traditions.

Dettori 2006 Bianco
Cogno 2008 Anas-Scetta (Nascetta)
Ronco Severo 2006 Tocai Friulano
Ronco Severo 2007 Refosco
Vajra 2008 Dolcetto d’Alba
Produttori del Barbaresco 2008 Langhe Nebbiolo

$150

Plus tax (shipping and handling if applicable)

I’ll be shipping the wines on Monday from my warehouse in San Diego and delivering the wines to San Diego residents on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday.

To purchase, please just send me an email by clicking here.

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Produttori del Barbaresco 2005 single-vineyard tasting notes

Click here to read my notes from a tasting of all nine vineyard-designated wines from Produttori del Barbaresco’s 2005 harvest.

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Produttori del Barbaresco!

Produttori del Barbaresco Offering

Please email me the desired quantities and I will put together a proposal for you.

Wines will be delivered to San Diego residents Thursday, Friday, and Saturday, September 2-4, 2010.

See my note on the 2006 Barbaresco below.

Produttori del Barbaresco 2008 Langhe Nebbiolo $22
Produttori del Barbaresco 2006 Barbaresco $34
Produttori del Barbaresco 2005 Barbaresco Pora $61
Produttori del Barbaresco 2005 Barbaresco Asili $61
Produttori del Barbaresco 2005 Barbaresco Montestefano $61
Produttori del Barbaresco 2004 Barbaresco Pora $61
Produttori del Barbaresco 2004 Barbaresco Asili $61
Produttori del Barbaresco 2004 Barbaresco Montestefano $61
Produttori del Barbaresco 2004 Barbaresco Moccagatta $61
Produttori del Barbaresco 2001 Barbaresco Pora $75

If you follow Do Bianchi Wine Selections or my blog (DoBianchi.com), you know how much Tracie P and I love the wines of Produttori del Barbaresco.

When people ask me what my favorite wine is, I always answer the same way: it depends on where I am, what I’m eating (no food without wine, no wine without food is my motto), with whom I’m sharing a meal, and the occasion itself. Poolside with friends and family, munching on tacos and hamburgers, I like to drink inexpensive Moscato d’Asti or Lambrusco; for a special occasion dinner with Tracie P, I like to drink old Nebbiolo.

But when people ask me what my favorite winery is, there is no hesitation in my voice when I say unequivocally PRODUTTORI DEL BARBARESCO.

If you don’t know the winery, it’s a unique cooperative founded by a priest in the tiny village of Barbaresco in the 1950s (with origins stretching back to the late nineteenth century). The wines are traditionally made: 100% Nebbiolo, grown by 38 cooperative grower members (you could call this an “artisanal” as opposed to “industrial” cooperative), vinified in cement and stainless-steel vats, and then aged in large Slavonian oak casks.

I’ve put together the above offering based on my personal preferences. Tracie P and I served 2008 Langhe Nebbiolo at our wedding, to give you a sense of how much we love this wine. The 2006 Barbaresco, in my opinion, is a truly unique bottling by the winery: even though the vintage was good-to-excellent, the winery decides not to bottle its single-vineyard-designated wines and so blended all the crus (single vineyards) into the classic blended wine (which is made mostly from its Ovello cru). It’s not that it’s better than other vintages for the classic bottlings, but it is truly unique (see my blog post on the 2006 here). The crus I’ve selected are my personal favorites: Pora, the most approachable and roundest of the crus; Asili, the most elegant and some would say (including Bruno Giacosa) the essence of Barbaresco; and Montestefano, one of the most powerful crus, bordering on Baroloesque in its tannic structure and savory flavors.

Produttori del Barbaresco represents a FANTASTIC cellaring value.

Except for the Langhe Nebbiolo (which is meant to drink right away), these wines can be cellared for 10-20 and even 30 years. Remember the 1971 that Tracie P and I drank in New York in May?

I’ll be sending out more tasting notes, vintage and vineyard notes, over the next week. Deadline for ordering is Friday, August 27.

Thanks for reading!

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Something truly special from the Veneto and Friuli (Last Summer Six-Pack)

Above: A shot from my trip to Friuli and Slovenia in Spring, 2008.

Something Truly Special from the Veneto and Friuli
(Last Summer Six-Pack 2010)

Prosecco NV Costadilà
Favaro 2008 Erbaluce di Caluso
Vajra 2007 Barbera d’Alba
Ronco Severo 2007 Refosco
Ronco Severo 2005 Schioppettino
Vajra 2008 Moscato d’Asti

$150 plus tax (and shipping if applicable)
free delivery for San Diego residents.

To order, please just send me an email by clicking here.

I love all these wines in this six-pack, of course. But three of them are extra-special. The Prosecco because it is raised by a biodynamic farm and is aged on its lees. It’s simply one of the best expressions of Prosecco I’ve found in the U.S. It’s aged on its lees, which gives it a much richer flavor and aroma than the commercial Prosecco you generally find in the States. It reminds me of the Prosecco I would drink when I was a student in Padua (Padova) and musician in Belluno (see below).

If the Prosecco weren’t hard enough to find, I was blown away when I tasted the Refosco and Schioppettino by Ronco Severo (SEH-veh-roh), a biodynamic farm that makes barriqued Merlot and Cabernet for big-spending Germans and Americans (great, I’m sure, but not really my speed) and KILLER indigenous Refosco and Schioppettino aged in LARGE TRADITIONAL CASKS for the rest of us. I love these gorgeous red wines. They are real, they are fresh (even at 3 and 5 years out) and they taste like no other red grape. They embody that “unbearable lightness of being” that attracts me in great wine, where the wine’s tannic structure is balanced by a lightness of body. These grapes are true originals and wonderfully food-friendly. I rarely see Refosco and Schioppettino and I was simply thrilled when I got to taste these. See my other descriptions below… and thanks for reading and clicking! Happy summer of 2010!

There’s a reason why I always crave Prosecco (from the Veneto) and the red wines of Friuli during summer months. In the 1990s, when I was a grad student at UCLA, I spent three summer touring with my cover band in the province of Belluno.

We were based in Pedavena (about an hour and a half north of Padua and 45 minutes south of Belluno), at the old 1930s Birreria, now defunct but then in its second heyday (acquired and reopened by Heineken as a “music club”). I was in my 20s and we had us some great times.

The townsfolk called us “gli americani” and we were local celebrities. We played Beatles, Stones, and Jimi Hendrix songs, the occasional original, and U2 (pronounced OOO DOOO-eh, in Italian) by request. Sometimes we’d go out and play in open pastures where they had brought generators, a PA system, and grills where they would cook ribs and polenta and beans. The back drop was right out of “The Sound of Music.”

Above: That’s the main room at the Birreria. John Krylow played bass that year and the next and Charlie George played drums all three years. Whenever we get together in San Diego, one of us is bound to bring up a memory of those times and say, “those were the days.”

Prosecco DOC Costadilà

If you’ve ever heard me tell the story about how I got into food and wine writing, then you know it has to do with Prosecco. Because I studied, lived, worked, and played music for so many years in the Veneto (in specifically in Padua [Padova] and Belluno), Prosecco was the first wine I really and truly got to understand. I “lived” Prosecco: the friend I made and the families that invited me over for Sunday lunch in those days all had their favorite Prosecco, the one they’d visit every summer to stock their cellar for the rest of the year.

When I found out this Prosecco was available in the States, I jumped at the chance to get it. It’s one of the so-called Triple A group, which follows the teachings of Nicholas Joly, the father of contemporary biodynamic farming and winemaking in Europe today. And unlike most Prosecco (but like the Prosecco the “grandfather makes,” the kind I like!), it is aged on its lees (the leftover yeast, when fermentation is completed). THIS IS REAL Prosecco, with a richness and brightness in its fruit that you will never find in commercial Prosecco. I love this stuff.

Above: The Birreria in Pedavena has fallen upon not so happy days but in its second-incarnation heyday, when it was reopened and we played there, it was so much fun. That’s the view from the outdoor stage. You can see the “baita” or cabin in the back.

Favaro Erbaluce di Caluso DOC 2008

Erbaluce, loosely translated, means the “Grassy Light.” It’s a wonderful clone of Italy’s ubiquitous Greco, which, in this case, grows in the foothills of the Alps in the northeastern area of Piedmont. This wine is bright with acidity and fruit and its freshness comes from the high elevations where it is farmed and raised. A great food-friendly white, with balanced alcohol. Perfect for summertime drinking (fish tacos any one?).

Vajra 2007 Barbera d’Alba

Tracie P and I recently got to taste the Vajra wines again here in Texas and this Barbera just keeps knocking my socks off. Lip-smacking wild berry fruit, bright acidity, balanced alcohol. I wanted to include a Barbera in the last Summer Six-Pack because Barbera is one of those wines that you can put in the fridge and chill before serving (many northern Italian families serve their Barbera slightly chilled in the summer). This is probably my number-one burger pairing for the summer of 2010.

Ronco Severo Refosco 2007

Ronco Severo Schioppettino 2005

These two wines are the gems of this offering. I had never seen Ronco Severo offered in the U.S. before and I jumped at the chance to grab these. See my note above. No matter what grape anyone compares these to, don’t be fooled: they are Friulian all the way and they don’t taste like Sryah or Merlot or anything. They taste like Friuli!

Vajra 2008 Moscato d’Asti

The Vajra Moscato has been SUCH a hit with my friends and family that I thought I’d over here (if only so that Tracie P and I can drink what I don’t sell!). It’s wonderful wine with almost any kind of dessert and it’s a classic pairing for fresh fruit. But, thinking outside of the box, it’s also THE PERFECT POOLSIDE WINE, with just 5-7% alcohol. It’s just easy and fun and delicious. Tracie P and I stand by our statement that this is one of the best Moscato d’Asti we have ever tasted.

Happy summer of 2010 everyone!

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